Best class to get all skills? - Guild Wars Forums

giroml · Mar 17, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

What I mean by this is, what is the best primary to synergize with all 5 other secondaries with the end goal to be to unlock as many skills as possible with one primary character class. From the bit of research at these forums it seems to be either Warrior or Ranger. Thoughts?

chaos dragoon · Mar 17, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Id say any class that can solo because you will need alot of skill points to UAS.

Lord Iowerth · Mar 17, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

I would say base the primary class of said character based upon where you want to do your "end game" farming ... IE, where you would earn the most experience.

Doing UW and quest rewards comes to mind, as well as Sorrow's quests/runs.

I would cast my vote for Monk, if either of the above appeal to you (plus the bonus of never having to look for a group pretty much wherever you go

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sledgeunderhill · Mar 17, 2006, 11:21 PM // 23:21

I vote monk as well. The 55 build comes to mind, but for pure XP purposes, going with teams to clear FoW/UW provides massive rewards for skill points. The gold that comes along should help you break even as well if you're buying the skill points.

UAS will become a longer task with Ch2.

Also, do not forget that you can unlock using faction, and in that case, a monk also comes in handy, too.

To answer Frickett: once something is unlocked (either by faction or skill buying), it is available to PvP toons. When a skill is PURCHASED with skill points by a PvE (roleplay) character, it is available only for that character. Further example: Monk on new account buys Arcane Echo in Beetletun. This becomes an unlocked skill and now is available for new PvP toons to use. However, when the new account builds another PvE/Roleplay character, they will have to buy Arcane Echo for their own use.

frickett · Mar 17, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

if you unlock using faction does it unlock for your other characters (pve and pvp)?

lagrand1 · Mar 17, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28

I would say warrior, ranger or monk. Pick a primary you enjoy, and with any of these, you can effectively use any secondary, or create a build with only primary skills.
My warrior and ranger both normally use builds that ignore secondary skills.

giroml · Mar 17, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Thanks for the replies. One other question: Say I switch secondary class after finishing the PvE game with a Warrior/Monk to say Elementalist. Can I go back and do all the Elementalist skill quests for unlocks?

sledgeunderhill · Mar 17, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45

You can do the class-specific skills in Ascalon and Yaks. After that, you'll have to buy the skills. You'll get about 8 free skills this way. The rest of it is via the long battle for XP.

Gafgarion · Mar 17, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

I'd say Warrior or Ranger - Warrior for the versatility in farming spots and general sturdiness, or Ranger for having the (imho) most balanced armor/energy regen combo.

You can do the initial class specific class quests in the beginning, which are 3 or 4 different NPCs IIRC for each class .

TehTomato · Mar 17, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49

just deleting your character and replaying the game is easier to get all the skills via skill points

Kai Nui · Mar 18, 2006, 12:16 AM // 00:16

Mesmer. That's what I'm doing anyway, I can farm UW, and many other places. I've done Ranger Spike groups before, I can do just about anything. And since Fast Casting is pretty general, I can use it for anything. Elementalist and Necromancer are also good choices that come to mind. Strength, Expertise, and Divine Favor are only useful to one class on the other hand, and although they may seem like a better choice, I really don't think so. So far on my mesmer I have all Mesmer, Monk, Necromancer, and pretty soon Ranger Skills. I went for ranger because I wanted a spider to use for the hell of it. Next I'm going to do just some of Warrior and Elementalist and slowly work up on what's most useful and what I need unlocked. But mostly I get core skills and saving up some points for Ritualist and Assassin.

Sergio Leone · Mar 18, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25

I completely say Monk. It is a very versatile class. Say you want some major XP go farming in UW with a necro pal and do the first few quests, BOOM tons of xp and even some ecto and golds along the way. If you want to do some Sorrow's Furnace you can get tons of XP there by playing bonder. If neither of those appeal to you, go solo farming wherever you feel fit. If you really just need some xp I recommend the trolls outside droks with double xp scrolls. You almost always make the gold to buy another scroll and make the xp much faster.

You asked about quests. I think what you are asking is if you do a quest as say mo/w to unlock skills, you cannot do that quest ever again to unlock that quests skills for say mo/me.

Hope that all makes sense and helps.

EDIT: Kai, would you be willing to PM and give me some more info on the mesmer with what all it can do? I might be making one soon and would like all the help I can get with it.

sledgeunderhill · Mar 18, 2006, 12:49 AM // 00:49

The mesmer is quite the versatile class, as are all caster classes. You can do the 55 thing with all casters as a */mo. What the mesmer brings to the party is fast cast as well as some very nice debuffs and energy management skills. Additionally, there are troupes of mesmers that are doing all-mesmer teams in some late PvE areas of the game (SF, NUW, UW, FoW). Knowing what the area features really helps to plan ahead and bring strong builds.

This forum as well as others have great information on how the mesmer class does it.

Playing the mesmer primary to UAS is an interesting idea, albeit it won't be as easy as a Monk UAS.

Mar 17, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31	#1
giroml Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	Best class to get all skills? What I mean by this is, what is the best primary to synergize with all 5 other secondaries with the end goal to be to unlock as many skills as possible with one primary character class. From the bit of research at these forums it seems to be either Warrior or Ranger. Thoughts?

Mar 17, 2006, 11:21 PM // 23:21	#4
sledgeunderhill Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Gathering of Friends [GoF]	I vote monk as well. The 55 build comes to mind, but for pure XP purposes, going with teams to clear FoW/UW provides massive rewards for skill points. The gold that comes along should help you break even as well if you're buying the skill points. UAS will become a longer task with Ch2. Also, do not forget that you can unlock using faction, and in that case, a monk also comes in handy, too. To answer Frickett: once something is unlocked (either by faction or skill buying), it is available to PvP toons. When a skill is PURCHASED with skill points by a PvE (roleplay) character, it is available only for that character. Further example: Monk on new account buys Arcane Echo in Beetletun. This becomes an unlocked skill and now is available for new PvP toons to use. However, when the new account builds another PvE/Roleplay character, they will have to buy Arcane Echo for their own use. Last edited by sledgeunderhill; Mar 17, 2006 at 11:36 PM // 23:36..

Mar 17, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52	#2
chaos dragoon Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Warrior Nation[WN] Profession: R/	Id say any class that can solo because you will need alot of skill points to UAS.

Mar 17, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12	#3
Lord Iowerth Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!) Guild: Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: R/Mo	I would say base the primary class of said character based upon where you want to do your "end game" farming ... IE, where you would earn the most experience. Doing UW and quest rewards comes to mind, as well as Sorrow's quests/runs. I would cast my vote for Monk, if either of the above appeal to you (plus the bonus of never having to look for a group pretty much wherever you go )

Mar 17, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22	#5
frickett Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Shinigami Keys [SHIN] Profession: R/Mo	if you unlock using faction does it unlock for your other characters (pve and pvp)?

Mar 17, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#6
lagrand1 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Zombies of War Profession: W/	I would say warrior, ranger or monk. Pick a primary you enjoy, and with any of these, you can effectively use any secondary, or create a build with only primary skills. My warrior and ranger both normally use builds that ignore secondary skills.

Mar 17, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41	#7
giroml Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	Thanks for the replies. One other question: Say I switch secondary class after finishing the PvE game with a Warrior/Monk to say Elementalist. Can I go back and do all the Elementalist skill quests for unlocks?

Mar 17, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45	#8
sledgeunderhill Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Gathering of Friends [GoF]	You can do the class-specific skills in Ascalon and Yaks. After that, you'll have to buy the skills. You'll get about 8 free skills this way. The rest of it is via the long battle for XP.

Mar 17, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46	#9
Gafgarion Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brazil Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] Profession: W/	I'd say Warrior or Ranger - Warrior for the versatility in farming spots and general sturdiness, or Ranger for having the (imho) most balanced armor/energy regen combo. You can do the initial class specific class quests in the beginning, which are 3 or 4 different NPCs IIRC for each class .

Mar 17, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49	#10
TehTomato Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: NBK Profession: R/Mo	just deleting your character and replaying the game is easier to get all the skills via skill points

Mar 18, 2006, 12:16 AM // 00:16	#11
Kai Nui Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you with a knife Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE] Profession: Me/	Mesmer. That's what I'm doing anyway, I can farm UW, and many other places. I've done Ranger Spike groups before, I can do just about anything. And since Fast Casting is pretty general, I can use it for anything. Elementalist and Necromancer are also good choices that come to mind. Strength, Expertise, and Divine Favor are only useful to one class on the other hand, and although they may seem like a better choice, I really don't think so. So far on my mesmer I have all Mesmer, Monk, Necromancer, and pretty soon Ranger Skills. I went for ranger because I wanted a spider to use for the hell of it. Next I'm going to do just some of Warrior and Elementalist and slowly work up on what's most useful and what I need unlocked. But mostly I get core skills and saving up some points for Ritualist and Assassin.

Mar 18, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25	#12
Sergio Leone Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Guild: The International Terrorists [USA] Profession: W/Mo	I completely say Monk. It is a very versatile class. Say you want some major XP go farming in UW with a necro pal and do the first few quests, BOOM tons of xp and even some ecto and golds along the way. If you want to do some Sorrow's Furnace you can get tons of XP there by playing bonder. If neither of those appeal to you, go solo farming wherever you feel fit. If you really just need some xp I recommend the trolls outside droks with double xp scrolls. You almost always make the gold to buy another scroll and make the xp much faster. You asked about quests. I think what you are asking is if you do a quest as say mo/w to unlock skills, you cannot do that quest ever again to unlock that quests skills for say mo/me. Hope that all makes sense and helps. EDIT: Kai, would you be willing to PM and give me some more info on the mesmer with what all it can do? I might be making one soon and would like all the help I can get with it.

Mar 18, 2006, 12:49 AM // 00:49	#13
sledgeunderhill Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Gathering of Friends [GoF]	The mesmer is quite the versatile class, as are all caster classes. You can do the 55 thing with all casters as a */mo. What the mesmer brings to the party is fast cast as well as some very nice debuffs and energy management skills. Additionally, there are troupes of mesmers that are doing all-mesmer teams in some late PvE areas of the game (SF, NUW, UW, FoW). Knowing what the area features really helps to plan ahead and bring strong builds. This forum as well as others have great information on how the mesmer class does it. Playing the mesmer primary to UAS is an interesting idea, albeit it won't be as easy as a Monk UAS.